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-Brading Software Message Board +--Forum: Mp3/Tag Studio Support and Bug Reports +---Topic: A Question of Permanence started by Bill_W Posted by: Bill_W on June 12 2006,17:04 Dear Magnus, I purchased a copy of your mp3 Tag Studio a few days ago. I am hoping that it can do something in particular, but if it can't that is okay because I have other uses for the software in terms of orgainizing my own library of mp3s. More specifically, I am trying to find a way to create mp3 tags for a CD which I am doing and hoping to sell commercially -- at least in a limited way. Creating the tags is not the problem ... getting them to appear on someone else's computer or in different media players is the problem. It seems that once I change from one media player to another the tags disappear, and all I get is 'unknown artist, unknown album'. Similarly, when I burn a CD, if someone plays the CD on another computer, or rips the mp3s for use in a portable player, one gets the same 'unknown artist, unknown album'. Maybe, there is a way to get mp3 tags to stick from one player to another by using some aspect of your software, but, if there is, I'm not really sure how to make this work ... although I have tried a few things using your software. If there is a way to do this using your software, could you tell me how to do this, and if this cannot be done using your software, do you know if there is software capable of doing this. Or, does one have to register the mp3's with a given agency and add some sort of coding to the CD before other computers and media players will recognize the MP3 tags? Any help you might be able to offer me would be greatly appreciated. Bill Posted by: Magnus Brading on June 14 2006,00:19 There seems to be some confusion in your question regarding what an ID3 tags is. An ID3 tag is a collection of data written to a specific mp3 file on your hard disk. If this specific file is copied to another computer or played by another player, the ID3 tag and its info will still be there. You seem to be talking about burning the mp3 files out in standard music CD format to a CDR though, is that correct (i.e. so that they are playable in a normal CD player)? This is something completely different. Please clarify your question on this regard and I can explain further if you want. Posted by: Bill_W on June 14 2006,06:14 My main concern is this: how do I create information tags when I burn a CD consisiting of mp3s so that this information -- such as author, CD title, track number, year of release, and so on -- appears on the CD and will show up when used on some one else's computer CD player. I create the mp3 tags for the playlist I am burning. However, once burned, this information doesn't show up in any of my media players except the one through which I burned the CD. And, of course, none of this information appears on the CD when used in someone else's computer media player. Sorry for any confusing my request may have created. I hope the foregoig helps clear things up. Posted by: Magnus Brading on June 14 2006,10:15 Again, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "burn a CD consisting of mp3s"? Are you copying the mp3 files as raw files to a CD, or are you creating a normal music CD (playable in e.g. a car CD player) from mp3 files? This distinction is very important, and it seems to me like you could be doing the latter? I understand that this distinction can be confusing, so here's an even easier question that will help tip me off to the answer of the question above: When your burn CDs this way, how many songs can you fit on the CD at most? Is it like 20 something, or more than 100? Posted by: Bill_W on June 14 2006,22:22 I believe your hunch about what I am trying to do may be correct. However, in an attempt to eliminate as much confusion as possible (mainly my own), I'll briefly tell you what I have done and where I am. (1) using a logitech microphone and Propaganda software, I have recorded 21 poems. I have synched this with some royalty free music I purchased to create 21 mixed wav files which I converted to mp3s using Goldwave software. (2) I filled in all the CD information for these mp3s using the Advanced section of the Properties when I right clicked on the individual mp3 music file. (3) I created a playlist of the foregoing mp3s in Itunes, and, then, filled in some further mp3 tags during this step. (4) I burned a CD version of the above playlist using Itunes. (5) when I put the above created CD in someone else's computer media player, the songs play fine, but none of the information concerning title, artist, etc., shows up in the second computer. The CD also plays in a car CD player with no problem, and here the problem of the other information not showing up is not really an issue for me. Finally, in answer to your question, I can fit about 69 - 75 minutes worth of music-spoken word onto the CD irrespective of whether I use mp3 files or wav files of the same material. I hope the foregoing has helped eliminate some of the confusion I have been creating. Bill Posted by: Magnus Brading on June 14 2006,23:46 Ok, so my hunch was right, yes. So, to answer your question: ID3 tags are only attached to mp3 files, and as soon as you convert them to standard music CD format, this info is lost, it will not follow the music to the burnt CD. Some CD burning programs (e.g. Nero), and some more modern CD-players, support something called "CD TEXT" though, which can similarly embed some textual information with each track on the disc. Alternatively, there are also databases that match up tag info in online databases with a certain "fingerprint" from music CDs, and if you manage to register your own CD and its info with these (which some of them will indeed allow you too), your friends can get all your info from there. One example, the most original one, of these sites are "CDDB". end |