» Welcome Guest
[ Log In :: Register ]

 

[ Track this topic :: Email this topic :: Print this topic ]
Topic: Working with Whitburn list and Track Numbers, How to?< Next Oldest | Next Newest >
jprohner
Board Newbie



Group: Members
Posts: 1
Joined: Jan. 2006
Posted: Jan. 31 2006,18:14
I am trying to work with Whitburn Mp3 Items.
All Item numbers are NNN (3 digit)
and many have A or B suffix.

When capturing the Track number from the File ID I get
2 digits til over 100 and then 3.
Which is also how they rename.
Anything with a suffix gets 00.

That means I sort all the under 100 to a sub and rename by forcing a 0<trackn> in rename.

How can I set the depth to be 3 digits? Period.
How can I capture the suffix and reapply them.

I now sort them out to seperate Sufixes and
force the rename by <trackn>x for each group.
But that leaves the Tag wrong.

I have been told to change to a different program that can do this but I am not about to give up my favorite tool.

Thank You
John :ashamed:
Back to top
Profile PM 
Magnus Brading
Almighty Author



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 2751
Joined: Aug. 2002
Posted: Jan. 31 2006,18:41
If I understood this correctly, the following setting should work just fine?

Settings (in file menu) ---> "General tagging and renaming" ---> "Zero-pad track numbers to length"

--------------
Software author and website owner
Back to top
Profile PM WEB 
jprohner
Unregistered
Posted: Jan. 31 2006,20:16
Ok that makes the 3 digits work.

BUT, it still creates a zero Tack Number
if creating the track number from the File Name
and the file name is something like 101a or 101b.
as is common in the whitburn file names.

Any way to capture the letter?
And put it back when renaming.

The prefix year is easy just add the 70_ (yr_) in front of the track.

Great tool By the way.
Thank You
John
Back to top
Magnus Brading
Almighty Author



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 2751
Joined: Aug. 2002
Posted: Jan. 31 2006,21:58
Sadly, the ID3v2 tag standard does not allow any letters in the track number field, so there's nothing to be done about that specific situation.  :(

--------------
Software author and website owner
Back to top
Profile PM WEB 
calberga
Ancient Board Spirit



Group: Awaiting Authorisation
Posts: 254
Joined: Oct. 2002
Posted: Jan. 31 2006,23:10
Is it possible to have a pattern (misusing a obscure V2 tag):

<Date>_<TrackNr:3><V2_WPAY> - <Title>.mp3

[I'm guess a bit on the filenames, I've only seen them in subject headers, never downloaded any.]

My hope here is that

1936_023a - Foobar.mp3

Will cause <V2_WPAY> to be set with a value "a", while

1936_024 - Snafu.mp3


1936_023a - Foobar.mp3

Will cause <V2_WPAY> to be set with a value "" (that is, a zero length string).

If so, you could reconstruct the name from that.  If not, it might be considered a bug, and perhaps the Allmighty Author could be persuaded to MAKE it work that way.

Where do we burn incense?
Back to top
Profile PM 
calberga
Ancient Board Spirit



Group: Awaiting Authorisation
Posts: 254
Joined: Oct. 2002
Posted: Jan. 31 2006,23:12
Sorry, ignore the second instance of:

1936_023a - Foobar.mp3

in the previous message.
Back to top
Profile PM 
jprohner
Unregistered
Posted: Jan. 31 2006,23:26
Actually The Whitburn Renamer (program) takes it from the spreadsheet and adds a couple things.
Here is the Actual name in Full:
70_008a - Guess Who - American Woman - 256 ST 3.54.mp3

So the year is YY then seperator Then 3 digit sequence number
and Suffix, if two or more at same point (or for a B Side),
Then seperator Artist, Seperator Title
and added is seperator Bitrate Type Durration
there could be a [45] if it is same time as 45 was, or a + or several if it is a dupplicate of one already in the list.

Until the renamer there things had last names first and all mashed up. The renamer works reading the spread sheet
information, compars it to MP3 title and artist and then renames the file (but it can be turned off). So it is a good tool to use to try to get a singular copy of a year done.

Problem is that once all is done you have one version of the song that is say, album or live or mixed and the suffix is the only way to sequence them properly.

If the Spec failed to see this then it needs to be readdressed.
However, I do know that 2 other tools allow the use of Alphanumerics in the number space. So It is hard to say what this "standard" is. As a Hardware design engineer, who writes his own firmware, I know that sometimes we bend specs, like we did to make USB 1.1 work with 2.0.

Thanks for the replay.
I'll try tinkering and see.

John
Back to top
Magnus Brading
Almighty Author



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 2751
Joined: Aug. 2002
Posted: Feb. 02 2006,16:42
Calberga, yes, that method of splitting it up into two different fields will work just fine.

Jprohner, there is sadly a little difference between officially breaking/updating a standard and being a single renegade product doing it.  :(

--------------
Software author and website owner
Back to top
Profile PM WEB 
jprohner
Unregistered
Posted: Feb. 02 2006,19:17
I understand and was not advocating "breaking" the standard.
But ur seems to need to be "readdressed.
What field could be used for the Suffix?

Thank You
As I said I use and recommend this one.
John
Back to top
Magnus Brading
Almighty Author



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 2751
Joined: Aug. 2002
Posted: Feb. 02 2006,23:00
You can use any ID3v2 text field you want, i.e. any one you don't normally use. All ID3v2 text fields are listed in the "Advanced ID3v2 info" dialog of the browse tool, so you can pick one there.

And I'm glad you like the program. :)

--------------
Software author and website owner
Back to top
Profile PM WEB 
9 replies since Jan. 31 2006,18:14 < Next Oldest | Next Newest >

[ Track this topic :: Email this topic :: Print this topic ]