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Ralf Schmitz
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Posted: April 21 2003,01:18

Sorry, does it run with CDDB-Database ?

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Posted: April 21 2003,12:33

There is currently no direct CDDB support in Mp3/Tag Studio, no.

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Posted: May 07 2003,12:25

imho - the lack of cddb or similar support is the only thing missing that would make this the complete tag/mp3 rename program - would be a major issue for me in deciding to buy or not, I'm afraid
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Posted: May 07 2003,14:45

Not to detract from the importance of the question, but a few thoughts about CDDB, FreeDB and similar tools...

Most of the time that I try to get info from these sources it is wrong, incomplete or non-existent. Half the tracks of an album listed, only one of a two CD set found, mis-spelled artists and/or titles, wrong or 'misc' genre, and my personal peeve: various artists. It would piss me off for my work to be included on an album and to be listed only as 'various'. My favorite is when there are multiple entries for the song or album info that I seek, and they are all wrong.

I found MP3TS after becoming increasingly annoyed by these issues. Surely this is because of the relative obscurity of the music that I listen to? In some cases, yes. Some titles are too new, or they are 7'/12'/mini-CD mixes, limited editions, or they just were not popular. But errors are rife even with material that was popular and distributed globally.

Like many have said before me: if you want something done correctly, do it yourself. Because there does not appear to be any valid process of refinement in these databases, it's often less of an aggravation to simply enter the data myself. It's what I wind up doing much of the time anyway - even when I do pull info from the DB's.

Again, I'm not contesting the validity of the question/request. It might be nice to have FreeDB functionality in MP3TS. Sometimes it works flawlessly. But I find that circumstance to be the rarity, so I don't trust them. Consequently,  I'm glad to have a tool to pick up the slack and fulfill my control-freak tendencies  :p
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Posted: May 07 2003,15:27

I couldn't have put it better myself.  :agree:

I feel the exact same way about CDDB and its friends, and this (combined with the relatively large implemention effort it would take) is also why it is not at the top of my todo list. :(

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Posted: Dec. 04 2003,03:14

Have you looked at using www.allmusic.com?  The now defunct internet mp3 renamer used it.  Tag&Rename uses it.  I've used Tag&Rename and had remarkable success connecting to allmusic.  I'd be using it now, but it's lacking some of the functions MP3TS has.

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Posted: Dec. 14 2003,16:26

re CDDB: I've been reading the forum notes re 1) want CDDB info and 2) don't want to do it because it's inaccurate. But I think the answer is to set up the CDDB option to find the POSSIBLE tag info from CDDB, leave it available for a) write new tag from CDDB or b) manually edit/replace on a field by field basis. This is best of both worlds, find out if there's anything informative on CDDB (like album and year, song composer, etc.) and take what you need. This doesn't lend itself to bulk operations, but even then, a bulk download from CDDB stored to a temp file could even allow some fast operations. Although I've found MP3ts the best out there, the CDDB feature would be a big plus[B]
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Posted: Dec. 19 2003,03:26

Have any of the CDDB critics here used MusicMatch's Smart Tag feature? The thing works flawlessly. I can't understand why people wouldn't want the same lookup capability in MP3 Tag Studio.
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Posted: Dec. 30 2003,18:51

RE: the CDDB / FreeDB question.

I agree that the databases are often inaccurate, so you would not want to blindly enter tag info from them.  Nevertheless, they do contain a lot of valuable information, and it would be nice to have access to that info.  I agree with Liz that the answer is to set up the database option to find *possible* tag info.  For example, you could have MTS go to FreeDB and find *just* the album name for all the MP3s in a given folder (but not the title or artist).  And, there could be an option to never overwrite existing fields, meaning that if the album name was there, no change would be made.

One potential advantage of this approach is that you might be able to ignore the genre field.  From my experience with Exact Audio Copy, it seems that most albums have at least two entries in FreeDB.  Typically, they differ only with respect to the genre.
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Posted: April 19 2005,20:45

Well said. Additionally it'd be nice to have the DBlookup linkable to functions MP3TS almost certainly already has (i'm not smart enough to be a high-end user), i.e. i'd like to be able to search my collection for tags missing (in adjustable priority) song name, artist, track number, year, genre, etc.
This database would be compiled and saveable thus loadable for future work, if you've got a big collection [29000] and don't want to sort them all out in one marathon session. Once compiled you could run DBlookup against missing fields or user-selected ones with option to change as directed, as Winger says.
I know it's a big thing to add dude, but it would make MP3TS the all-encompassing utility thus squash loads of pretenders off the market  3:-)
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Agree : important feature missin
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Posted: Sep. 01 2005,17:47

I guess that CDDB support, OGG Vorbis support and local translations are the major fonctions missing.
Personnaly I use CDDB rarely (50% of my files are unknown from CDDB anyway). But it is truly an important feature.
I'd advice people to have a look on www.discogs.com (large database)
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Posted: Sep. 18 2005,13:28

1 more vote to include freedb (and/or cddb) support - for now i have to use foobar to fetch the tags from freedb and then mp3ts to correct & rename etc. yes i agree sometimes there's a lot to correct but it has still saved me countless hours. i'd trash foobar 3:-D the moment i could use mp3ts to do all i need :rock:
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Posted: Oct. 05 2005,06:10

interesting on my thoughts of suggestion exactly...
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Posted: Oct. 07 2005,03:17

Everytime I check back to the MP3 Tag Studio web site and forum, I'm hoping to see CDDB or similar support, and I always read the same excuse.  Because the databases are so inaccurate, it isn't worth adding.  As always, YMMV.  Personally, I find that most (99%) the track information I get from these databases is correct, or correct enough. It saves me lots of typing using the databases.  Instead of typing a CD song list in, I can simply proof read it and be done.  Why this is seen as a detriment and not a benefit, I don't understand.

I have a couple hundred older CD's that were ripped without the benefit of CDDB or similar years ago.  I've been slowly re-tagging them using a different program that does read the CDDB database (MPTagger).  MPTagger even figures out the correct title list based on the checksum of the group of ripped songs (works on whole albums).  But, I would prefer to use MP3 Tag Studio for obvious reasons.  MPTagger is out of date and no longer supported, so it has it's own problems (doesn't support newer tag formats, slightly buggy).  But, until MP3 Tag Studio adds CDDB/FreeDB support, it doesn't provide a critical feature I need.  My only other easy option is to re-rip the CD's and let my ripper use CDDB/FreeDB like any good ripper should, but that's very time consuming.  

Please add this feature.  It is commonly requested, yet always ignored.  Some people think it's useless, but many find it invaluable. That doesn't make it a waste of time.

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Posted: Nov. 12 2005,12:39

Hi Magnus,

Long time user, first time poster. Love your work!

I'm sorry to read that (as of two years ago) you felt freedb etc were unworthy of addition to your program. Yes, like any mass-user contributed database it has bad data, but it has FAR more good data. I use it in other programs to rename / tag mp3's that have not been labeled correctly and when ripping songs myself.

However, I can't do it with your wonderful program. Have you changed your mind on including this support?
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Posted: Nov. 12 2005,12:57

Sorry, not yet. ;) I'm glad you like the program anyway though. :)

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