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+--Forum: Mp3/Tag Studio Support and Bug Reports
+---Topic: Unable to write id Tag started by Filippas
Posted by: Filippas on Nov. 06 2002,15:10
Hallo there,
I am a newbee to this software and there for excuseme for my ingnorance.
Registered my copy a few day's ago and start working with the Tag Studio and noticed somthing odd.
When I have multiple mp3 files (ripped with Audio Catalyst 2) and I want them to rename them (mass rename) all goes well only the first track returns the message "Unable to write Tag id".
I must open winamp > file info > select id3v1 > change field for field to get it right. And after that copy tag v1 to v2.
What is it I'm doeing wrong here?
The program is great that's why I regitered my copy.
Posted by: Magnus Brading on Nov. 06 2002,17:15
Hmm, very strange, never heard of anything like that before.
And I guess you mean that the error message is really "Unable to write ID3 tag"?
My best guess would be that there is some other program in your computer that locks these files that cannot be written to. In that case, Mp3/Tag Studio can't do anything about it.
Does this happen in every directory that you try to process, or just with some directories and some files?
Posted by: Skirge01 on Nov. 06 2002,17:31
Is this error ALWAYS with the first file of a ripping session? Or is it simply one file that's causing you an issue? Also, if you try to rename just that one file (no mass rename), does it work okay?
George
Posted by: Filippas on Nov. 07 2002,00:27
It alway happens when I mass tag. Always happens for the first file only
.It' strange behavior. I have to use the self invented workaround to get the tag work for the first file.
Even renaming doesn't help.
Posted by: Skirge01 on Nov. 07 2002,00:49
I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying...
If you use "Browse/Edit tags & flags" to make the change, it DOES work?
George
Posted by: Filippas on Nov. 08 2002,13:57
@George,
Even than it returns "Unable to write ID3 tag to file".
This selecting the "Both" option in "Write To" .
Just ripped (track -> mp3) tracks 1-3 from a original cd (no copy) with cdex 1.3 and tis returns the same. Some extra info to this matter:
ID3v1 tag info: Contains only ID3v1 tag,
is beeing displayed for the fisrt track.
For track 2 to ...... is displayed "Contains syncned v1 and v2 tags.
Tried it on 3 diffrent machines (Win2000)
Maybe this helps a little more.
By the way. My machine runs Win2000.
Posted by: Magnus Brading on Nov. 08 2002,15:46
This even more suggests that there is some other software in your computer that is locking the first file in every folder (primary suspects are shell-extension dll:s or a virus). As far as I can think, it is practically impossible that Mp3/Tag Studio would be able to give special treatment to the first file in each folder, there's just not any code in it that would be able to know this?! (especially not when it happens from the browse tool, as you just said it did).
Please try the following and let me know the result:
In the folder with three files that you just told us about, you said that one file had this problem, and two of them worked fine. If you take the two files that worked fine, and copy them to a new folder, and then try to process them both from Mp3/Tag Studio, will they both still be ok, or will the first one of these two now have the problem?
If these two files will work when you do this, please send me a copy of the third file (the one that did not work when they were all three in the same directory), so that I can analyze it.
Posted by: Skirge01 on Nov. 08 2002,15:50
Thanks for the clarification.
Hmm... my first thought now is that it might be something with your CDRom drive. What brand & model# is it? I've read some things about drives that need to spin up before they start extracting or the data gets corrupted, but I've never run into it and so I don't know all the details.
I think most extraction programs have the option to spin up the drive before it starts pulling the data. See if that helps.
George
Posted by: Magnus Brading on Nov. 08 2002,16:03
Yes, the reason that I want Filippas to do what I describe above is to be able to completely rule out that it is the file itself that is corrupted in some way. By the earlier descriptions I get the impression that it doesn't matter which files are in a directory though, and that the first one still always gets the problem, but maybe that's not the case? Have you ever tried it on some files that you have not encoded yourself Filippas?
Posted by: Filippas on Nov. 11 2002,09:01
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Magnus
If you take the two files that worked fine, and copy them to a new folder, and then try to process them both from Mp3/Tag Studio, will they both still be ok, or will the first one of these two now have the problem?
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Tried this and you are right. Copied the two files into a new folder. Tried to edit the tag with TS and got the error message again on the first file. It is than odd that I have it on 3 diffrent PC that work indipendent from each other. What elese could this be.
I'll try it to install it on a new PC with no other applications on it. See what will happen.
Posted by: Filippas on Nov. 12 2002,14:59
I tried it on an other machine with WinXP on it and it worked.
Ripped 2 files with CDEX 1.3 and with TS I managed to edit the tags.
What is it then what prevents in Win2000 to tag the first file?
Posted by: Magnus Brading on Nov. 12 2002,15:38
I don't think it is your Windows 2000 itself that causes the problem, because myself and thousands of other users run Mp3/Tag Studio on Windows 2000 without any such problems.
As I said earlier, my best guess about the culprit would be a shell-extension program or a virus. Is there any one program that is installed on all those Windows 2000 computers you tried it on (if it's a virus you can of course not know this, but I mean a "normal" program, like e.g. some other mp3 tool or utility program of any kind)?
Posted by: Filippas on Nov. 13 2002,09:15
If you thougt you seen everything read this.
When I selected a mp3 files by rightclicking it TS opend.
I selected the second !!! file in the folder. Tried it to change the tag but got the message. "Unable to write ID3 tag file"
And this is the second file origanali selected by richt clicking the mouse and not the first file.
Tried to edit first file and I could edit it
.Now, who can tell me what is happening here!!!!!!!!!!!
Is there some
inside the computer trying to fool me 
.
Posted by: Magnus Brading on Nov. 13 2002,15:37
So, are you telling me that it is always the file that was used to open Mp3/TS from the shell-extension (right click-menu) that appears locked?
If you open Mp3/TS "the normal way" (by clicking its icon in the start menu), then can all files in all folders be processed without problems?
Posted by: Filippas on Nov. 14 2002,11:21
Yep, that's the case here (finally).
If I right-click a file it appers to lock that file and when using TS normaly it works fine.
Posted by: Magnus Brading on Nov. 14 2002,14:11
Ok, good to have that cleared out.
I still can't reproduce the problem though (neither on Windows 2000, nor on Windows 98 ), so I still suspect that there is some other shell-extension installed in your computer, that locks the file for you when right clicking it.
Posted by: Filippas on Nov. 21 2002,15:19
I clean all my win2000 partition and reinstalled win2000 on my machine (no dual boot machine).
After installing SP3 first I installed TS on my machine and tested it. Still the same problem. I'll rename my MP3's by opening TS instead of right clicking them. I can live with that.
Posted by: Magnus Brading on Nov. 21 2002,15:35
Ok, thanks for the info.
I will keep my eyes open for this problem in the future, and do my best to fix it, if it is a bug in Mp3/Tag Studio.
Posted by: thei on Nov. 25 2002,12:53
This might not make sense.. but I've had a similar problem.
Do the files have any advanced ID3v2 info? If they do you could try first removing any extended ID3v2 tags, then try removing the entire ID3v2 tag, and see if the problem goes away?
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