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lonelon2000 Board Fan Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: Feb. 2004 Posted: June 09 2007,18:11 How about support for embedded album art in media files, including the ability to display and append / insert images.  I have been able to extract them with MTS, but I'd like to do a mass import of album art for the many, many folders of music files that I have. -Thanks!!   Back to top

Magnus Brading Almighty Author Group: Super Administrators Posts: 2751 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: June 12 2007,10:29 How do you suggest it should be specified which images should be put into which tags? Mass tagging with one single image for many files is easy, sure, but for the equivalent of the auto tag from filename tool? -------------- Software author and website owner Back to top

masadav Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: June 2007 Posted: June 18 2007,15:21 I think its a good idea, and to solve it you could apply this method (or a better one if someone comes up with it). Say you have the ability to nominate an "album art" library (which would be a folder of jpegs in "My Pictures\Album Art" for example). Sticking to MTS file and autotag conventions, you could tell MTS that the files are in the format "<Artist> - <Album>.jpg" for example. So hence, on your autotag menu, you can click a simple "search for album art" checkbox, and when it autotags it will search your jpg folder for files that match the album and/or artist filename format. Example: i:\...\album art\Evanescence - Fallen.jpg would get assigned to any mp3's autotagged that had Artist = Evanescence and Album = Fallen. I'd also recommend the <Artist> - <Album>.jpg formula as a minimal (in the chance 2 artists have the same album name). Would save me heaps of time instead of mucking around with Media Player or Zune software. Back to top

Guest Unregistered Posted: July 11 2007,23:52 Why can't we just add an APIC from a separate file?  I assume that is the way everyone else does it.  Actually, some allow you to add it from the clipboard, but that uses Windows' proprietary .bmp format.  I would prefer to use standard .jpeg or .png files.  I usually have the picture in the same directory, named "folder.jpg" to take advantage of Windows' tile graphics.  It would be nice if I could set that as a default to add to to an APIC add operation. edit:  or CAN you add an APIC?  It's not listed in the pull-down menu.  It should be blazingly simple, requiring only a file selector to pick the image.  If you use the built-in WIndows API (explorer) I think you can even have it show thumbnails. Edited by Vreejack on July 11 2007,23:54 Back to top

Magnus Brading Almighty Author Group: Super Administrators Posts: 2751 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: July 23 2007,15:12 Yes, adding it for single files would be simple, it's the mass setting operations that would be a bit trickier GUI-wise. But sure, having a default filename is one idea. As soon as the Vista update hell is over I might add it. -------------- Software author and website owner Back to top

noddy Board Veteran Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: Feb. 2004 Posted: Aug. 07 2007,05:48 Vista? <spits> Bar humbug! Magnus, please assure me that your next release will continue to play nicely on XP? -------------- Cheers, Bruce. www.audio2u.com The home of quality podcasts Back to top

Magnus Brading Almighty Author Group: Super Administrators Posts: 2751 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: Aug. 08 2007,19:36 Hehe, don't worry noddy, I promise. -------------- Software author and website owner Back to top

SecretsKept Board Fan Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 12 Joined: Aug. 2003 Posted: Aug. 23 2007,06:05 have it use a standard named image in one of several accepted image formats from the working directory or root directory of the current file in use. For example most people who are picky with their mp3 directory have it organized in such a way that each artist is in a seperate folder and each album in a sub folder as well.  i personally name all my album art albumartfront.jpg albumartback.jpg etc, OR in the case of someone storing mass mp3's in the same mass directory as all the art you could have the program check for a image file named the same as the album name of that mp3 file, then set a default for image that would be prompted should that album art not be found, have it auto check for .jpg .jpeg or perhaps .gif or .bmp  only accepting image file extentions to be accepted using the most common ones.  personally i would LOVE this option i've been looking around for a better mp3 tag manager and frankly i just cant find one better. Back to top

micromouse2 Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: Aug. 31 2007,22:07 Hey guys.  I'm a major NOOB when it comes to this tag stuff, so please forgive me if I say anything that sounds retarded. I too went looking for a mass tag update, inserting cover art, using MP3 Tag Studio today and was REALLY bummed out when I couldn't find it.  When I was just using my computer or transflash MP3 players to play music, my tag needs were very simple as I was just dealing with text.  But I just purchased a Creative Zen M with a 30GB drive and finally decided to start spicing up my files with artwork for the display as I now have the space and display room to accomplish such things.  When I get my Archos Wifi unit for Xmas, I'm going to include URLs that point to online ###### for various tunes too...and lyrics and all kinds of good jazz.  I think that's pretty much where the tag industry is headed...features, features, features rather than just text. I did find a package to do the Art insertion job for now (Tag&Rename 3.3.5) but it's SO badly written...it has no caching and has to rescan the ENTIRE directory every time you switch folders...literally takes 10 minutes to get to a point where you can actually start editing the tags!  MP3 Tag Studio will be able to do that SO MUCH EASIER once you add the single image insertion to numerous files.  Tag&Rename can only do 1 image at a time...so you have to do all your albums 1 at a time by selecting just those songs.  Doing all your files at once using various picture files is going to be a VERY tough nut to crack for any tag editor. My suggestion for MP3 Tag Studio for now is to utilize the Mass Set Tags/Flags and under the "More" section, add an APIC frame insertion which can Append the files using a Path to the relevant jpg you want to use.  Yes, that will only do 1 Album or other set at a time, but it's a START. I don't know how you could do an Auto insertion and get all your MP3 files done at the same time.  MP3 Tag Studio can determine the Artist and Album based on the file name...it would then have to find a JPG (or BMP or whatever) with that same file name convention, but I wouldn't want the Picture files to be stored in the same directory as the MP3 files...that's just sloppy and problematic...so now you're stuck naming folders EXACTLY and then have to utilize one consistent picture format so you're not scanning for various picture types???  Wow...I'm gonna leave that up to someone much smarter than me to figure out. Back to top

micromouse2 Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: Aug. 2007 Posted: Sep. 04 2007,20:26 I think I found the solution for mass updates of the APIC field.  WMP10 (really any WMP version after 9, but other versions kinda stink) has a neat, built-in feature that's now leveraged by several mp3 sync managers.  You HAVE to have your music broken out into separate folders for EACH ALBUM before this will work...so if you aren't there already...just use WMP to do your sync and it will automatically do that for you on your mp3 player!  Kinda cool....you can then just copy your mp3 player back to your drive and VOILA!  Folder structure. In each folder, there will be a file called folder.jpg that stores the cover art for each album.  If you don't have any cover art yet, just highlight your entire library in WMP and select "Find Album Info" and it finds the cover art FOR YOU!  It's not 100% accurate, but at least 85% accurate with songs I have going back to 1960, which ain't bad.  Anything it doesn't find, you're probably going to have to hunt and peck online and manually embed the art yourself.  But if you're only doing that for 15% instead of 100%...that's time for other, more useful things. Once you've got all that done, MP3 Tag Studio could EASILY just copy the jpg image from the folder.jpg file in each directory and apply it to the appropriate files by tag signature.  The folders will have the same name as the Album field (done automatically by WMP) so a * APIC embed to all files where DIR=ALBUM and you're DONE! I wouldn't suggest that for anything you've manually named... a couple of characters off and you could end up with J Lo's face in all of your Jello Biafra mp3 files.  LOL. Thoughts? p.s.  Your word filter here is a bit too sensitive...the word "dayting" minus the y (as in files dayting back to 1960) and the word "scrayp" minus the y with an e on the end (as in scrayp the jpg image), get censored.  I imagine because dayting and the last 4 letters of scrayp are common SPAYAM words....SPAYAM minus the AY of course.  LOL Edited by micromouse2 on Sep. 04 2007,22:37 Back to top

LorettaYeo Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Jan. 08 2008,01:39 Hi Magnus - Good luck with Vista.  I have the DVD for my laptop but it's almost a year old and I'm still not ready to take the plunge, heh-heh. Add me to the list of folks that want to embed Album Art using MTS.  Right now I use Windows Media Player 11 and do one file at a time.  Zune software is clumsy; it doesn't even have the WMP Advanced Tag Editor.  And Media Monkey doesn't monitor changes to the music folders so when I want to verify that the image is in fact there, I usually have to wipe the library and wait for it to rescan. Most of my music is what I copied and converted from my LPs and 45's so the online database album art is wrong because it references currently available CDs instead of the original vinyl.  And I don't usually want "greatest hits" compilations, but the original release albums.  I sometimes spend hours surfing the Internet looking for the right art.  My scanner can't copy 12" by 12" or I'd just make my own. I only have four folders, M4As, MP3s, WAVs and WMAs so the folder.jpg solution wouldn't work for me.  (I'm still trying to beat WMP into submission and stop it from overwriting my default graphics.) I like the idea of a separate Album Art folder, with filename as <Artist> - <Album> as that would be a simple matter of editing the graphics filenames I've already got. I let Zune and WMP search the web for missing album art, then turned that update feature off.  Using ThumbsPlus, I copy whatever album art actually matches to my separate folder, with the album name.  Then I restart WMP and add the art to each file.  So far I've done about 500, or less than 10% of my collection. Yes, having a default graphic would be nice too.  I use the Wikipedia "No cover available" image. OK, now that you know what I want, are ya done yet???? Thanks for all the improvements to MTS you've made over the years.  ;c) Back to top

calberga Ancient Board Spirit Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 254 Joined: Oct. 2002 Posted: Jan. 08 2008,15:31 My digital camera came with a program by ArcSoft called Panorama Maker.  To create a image of a 12"x12" record jacket I scan the four quadrants (with lots of overlap, high res, and in .bmp, so the manipulations can be hidden by re-scaling at the end and conversion to .jpg).  I then feed the four files to Panorama Maker (in "Tile" mode) and it fits them together with only a slight barrel distortion.  (It is designed for photographs taken from a single spot at different angles, so it tries to accommodate for parallax.)  Before, I was using the "stitch" function in Corel Draw, but this is much easier and faster. Personally, I don't like images in the .mp3 files, they just fill up the disk faster, and the idea of a dozen or more copies of the same data grates on me.  In fact, when someone gives me files containing images almost the first thing I do is extract one, and clean them all out of the files.  YMMV. Back to top

enormus Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: Aug. 2008 Posted: Aug. 17 2008,16:02 Quote (Guest @ July 11 2007,23:52) Why can't we just add an APIC from a separate file?  I assume that is the way everyone else does it. I usually have the picture in the same directory, named "folder.jpg" to take advantage of Windows' tile graphics.  It would be nice if I could set that as a default to add to to an APIC add operation. Any developments on the album art front? I have been using the "folder.jpg in the album folder" convention since I started using Windows XP. This should be old hat by now and would integrate nicely with XP and Vista's thumbnail view. Anapod Explorer by Red Chair Software does exactly this during the copy to iPod process. Unfortunately, I can no longer use Anapod (since I have a Touch). So now I find I need a similar function in my tagger. The ability to specify where file should be pulled and the name would be nice, but anyone using Windows XP or Vista is really missing the boat by not simply dropping the album in the folder as "folder.jpg". Even a drag and drop function (similar to Tunesleeve) would be welcome for adding art to individual albums. Back to top

lonelon2000 Board Fan Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: Feb. 2004 Posted: Jan. 07 2009,05:55 I think I found what I've been looking for regarding this issue.  MP3Tag 2.42 does a really nice job with extensions to locate album art from different sources, like Zune Marketplace (800x800 max) or Amazon (500x500 max), and add them to multiple files that have the same album field.  I thought that the flat file listing that it has was a little cumbersome, because it takes a while to load, but it actually works out pretty well, since I don't have to traverse subfolders..  It also supports APE and FLAC files as well. Edited by lonelon2000 on Jan. 07 2009,05:56 Back to top

lonelon2000 Board Fan Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: Feb. 2004 Posted: Jan. 09 2009,22:44 Quote The ability to specify where file should be pulled and the name would be nice, but anyone using Windows XP or Vista is really missing the boat by not simply dropping the album in the folder as "folder.jpg". Even a drag and drop function (similar to Tunesleeve) would be welcome for adding art to individual albums. The only issue that I have with that is when the file is moved to another folder or CD with multiple files from different albums in the same directory, then that convention doesn't really work.  Saving the album art in each individual file will allow it to be shown when it is played, no matter where the file is. Edited by lonelon2000 on Jan. 09 2009,22:44 Back to top

Phampson Board Fan Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: April 2009 Posted: Feb. 02 2010,09:38 Wow am I missing something or is there no news at all on the album art front...? Would be great to have this missing feature. I currently have been allowing mediamonkery to tag my files for me as it makes adding the artwork a doddle... if you add art to one track there is a checkbox to say 'add to all tracks of album' which seems to be a great way of doing it. Also you can do it one at a time too but it needn't be too difficult to implement in this program. I miss using tag studio but until the art can be added it doesn't do everything I need and so it's more hassle using two programs... Back to top

WHA1949 Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: May 2010 Posted: May 12 2010,09:12 Thank you for your program. I have been using it very often for over five years. Recently I decided to add cover art to my files and found no way to do it in MP3/Tag Studio. So I used MP3TAG V2.46a and it was relatively easy to do it. Later I realized that the newly generated files didn't display correctly on my TEVION Multimedia Box (some kind of Linux). So I went back to your program, did a Mass Tag of Artist and they worked again. Fazit: It would be nice if I could use your program for cover art. Back to top

Phampson Board Fan Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: April 2009 Posted: Oct. 14 2010,09:56 Magnus? can you let us know if this is just flogging a dead horse here about the posibility of album art ever being implemented into your program? A few years have passed since this was started being talked of around the forum... I understand commitments and time restrictions etc. which is why I am asking - do you have absolutely NO plans to do the cover art option? Thanks for a (once) great program Back to top

Magnus Brading Almighty Author Group: Super Administrators Posts: 2751 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: Oct. 14 2010,13:53 I do have plans indeed, they just never seem to come to the front of the global todo prio queue.   -------------- Software author and website owner Back to top

Phampson Board Fan Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: April 2009 Posted: Nov. 01 2010,21:37 Aww so you are kind of saying 'yes' and 'no' at the same time? Go on... go on ... go on ... pleeeeeeeaaaaaassssseeee? For Christmas? Easter? Back to top

icefloe01 Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: June 2011 Posted: June 04 2011,00:17 I'm adding to a dead thread with a different request.   How about a way to REMOVE album art.  In the "Mass clean up tags" tab, I checked the box that says "More fields..." in the "ID3V2 tag" section, but that didn't work. Is there something else I can do without using another program? Eric Back to top

Magnus Brading Almighty Author Group: Super Administrators Posts: 2751 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: June 04 2011,03:07 When you click this "More fields..." checkbox, another dialog will pop up, and in this one you must choose which additional fields that should be cleared. In this case, you should probably choose "Attached Picture (APIC)". -------------- Software author and website owner Back to top

icefloe01 Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: June 2011 Posted: June 04 2011,03:19 I did check "Clear all additional". I'll try it with just the one for the pic checked and see what happens. Back to top

icefloe01 Board Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: June 2011 Posted: June 04 2011,03:37 That didn't work either.  I forgot I had foobar2000 installed for re-encoding some flac's over to mp3.  I fired it up and it had a menu for "remove all ####" and that seems to have done the trick. Back to top

nikkil Board Buff Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: Mar. 2012 Posted: Jan. 20 2013,15:48 Hi icefloe01, any notes yet if you were able to find a work around for this already? Back to top

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